Thread:Dycaite/@comment-5275700-20141010235654/@comment-5275700-20141014034414

I see that you have begun deleting pages and changed the site's theme. Given your actions, I have removed your administrator and bureaucrat rights. If you continue to remove or deface content, we will consider it vandalism and take further action.

This is a tough situation, I get that, but this has taken an unfortunate turn. We knew you were going to leave, but I did not want this to become an argument or escalate to this point. I was about to reply and continue to discuss this. So you know what I was planning on saying, and how I was hoping to better explain Wikia's point of view, here is the full reply that I had planned to post before I saw that you were deleting content:

"Thanks for your initial reply, which was very thorough and straightforward. These situations aren’t easy, and definitely not preferable for either Wikia or you (for different, yet connected reasons).

It’s fine to have move on your main page or other community pages, but only temporarily. They will need to come down eventually (I think one month is a reasonable amount of time). That sort of message is fine because it lets the community and readers know what's happening, but permanent links to the new site won't be allowed because they are essentially unauthorized advertisements and, therefore, not in line with our Terms of Use.

A large part of this disagreement is the ownership question. That’s completely understandable. You put massive amounts of time and energy into this wikia, so naturally you feel that sense of ownership. Who wouldn’t? But we draw a distinction between a sense of ownership and actual ownership. Wikia is more than a hosting service, so it's not a simple matter of setting up a site and then having ownership over it. No one owns a wikia, whether they're the founder, an admin, or a user. Communities can make decisions about whether to stay or leave, but it's ultimately the current community that would leave, not the website. In the spirit of the Creative Commons license, which allows you to copy the content from here to another website, it’s our policy to not close wikias or delete content from them after a community of editors moves on. If people would like to continue using this wikia, including potential future editors and readers who aren't even here yet, it will be open and available for them to do so, and to regrow a community around.

Now, PepsiWithCoke said that we only care about ad revenue. That’s just not true. Is ad revenue important to Wikia? Of course it is. We’re a for-profit company, and we need to maintain operations. Ad revenue is what allows us to do that, but there would be no ad revenue if we didn’t care about communities. Wikia is all about building communities and giving people a place to collaborate on the topics they are passionate about. I'm the Director of Community Support, and my entire job is focused on supporting Wikia communities.

Note the way I phrased that last part: Wikia communities. That often trips people up in situations like this, because there are conflicting interests. You want to move to another website, which is fine, and you want us to remove this wikia so you can have one website. Approaching it from your point of view, that's not an unfair desire. However, we are here to support Wikia communities, and to delete this wikia would be to the detriment of a future Lost Media Wiki community here on Wikia. After all, Wikia isn't here to support websites that aren't on Wikia. I know that, on first glance, that seems cold, but I think that's eminently reasonable, just as it would be to say that your new site is under zero obligation to cater to Wikia or any other website.

Obviously we would rather you stay here, but we understand that you've made a different decision and we know that you'll be leaving for another website. I hope that, now we've hopefully cleared things up here, this can be handled as smoothly as possible."